Can this motor be used with a different controller to give me use of a throttle? I found that PAS and the Shimano motor to be plenty for my needs. If I know these numbers, I will be able to tell you if gearing/small wheel size is your issue. Outputs and see if I have voltage present , I think there should be 5 volts at the throttle. Managed to fix it by flashing the appropriate bin file containing the correct firmware using stc-isp6.86 and all is now good! Just make sure you set the Limited Current (Amps) to 30 not 25 which is . I have a bss01b 250w motor. Wenn ich anschlussbelegungen beider Displays htte, wre mir geholfen. I hope you can still fix the problem. You just confirmed that this version doesnt have a throttle connection. controller programming part is broken kindly elaborate, not sure if its a physical or software part, is it external to the bafang controller or inside the controller. When you say pas 9 for safety reasons are you saying its safer to ride at full power on pas 9 than full power with the throttle only ? Range and torque are more important. I have BBSHD motor and 48V battery. This however will put more stress on the components than they were originally designed for. But dont know what type of motor. I am not 100% sure though. So if you just select a lower assist mode, your current wil be a certain percentage of the 18 amps (3 amps for example in assist mode 1). However, it always appears blank with dashes: Range - is there a way to program the controller so it displays the range left on your battery? And if you want the motor to stop straight away, you just hit the brakes. Regards, These work together like intended en will not put extra stress on the motor. I apologize for bothering you at this hour, but I have a problem with my bbs02 750w engine ..I used this engine on a Rockrider 27.5 bike and after a few months the error 30 appeared on the display. Hello! I found a tutorial here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=100064. Definitely not the same as when at 50V etc.. Not sure where to look in the settings to adjust. The error code 30 is probably also the cause of why the programming doesnt work. the issue is now fixed and I have been able to reset all the values and save on my PC. Im still waiting for my programming cable to come in, But what Im hoping to achieve is to maximize my battery life and therefore range. Say, adjusting my 26 to 20. I am not responsible for any damage that might occur. This might mix up the signals, showing incorrect load results and the inability to write. I recommend setting all the Speed Limit [%] to 100%, this way the motor will only stop assisting when you hit the max speed that you set on your display. It, in turn, will decide how fast the e-bike will accelerate. Its unlikely that it can damage your motor, but it definitely will give an incorrect speed. You can only change the low voltage cut-off. I tried with two USB programming cables I have reprogrammed my controller which was 52v to 48v. If you want to increase performance further, you can increase the general current limit. Unfortunately your e-bike cannot be tuned. Or only when you are really pushing it? I have an ebike with a engine bafang RMG06 48V500W(10). The message from the executable was that no serial connection could be established. Your only hope will be to find advanced settings in your display. The Bafang motor is meant to be a closed system. It will even increase the lifetime of the motor by using it at lower power levels. It only works with the BBSxx line-up. Thats why estimating the range is indeed difficult, you cannot really do something about this. nicht. Are you using a 4K monitor? I suspect that it cant be reprogrammed in the same way as the BBS series can like explained in this post. If anyone with the equipment that has done (or can do) the steps finds anything incorrect or insufficient, let me know and Ill update the instructions, to make this as easy, painless, and foolproof as possible for anyone that needs to do this. I used to ride in the highest gear, but this wears out the smallest cock really quickly at high speeds. I am using the 860c display with the BBSHD & Speeed configuration tool on my Samsung A51 phone running Android 10. You can find instructions on how to do this here: (Another tip is to go in the programming software and see if the low battery protection is set at 41. In the basic tab, you can find th speed limit [%] for each pedal assist number. Per my previous question: I have the M400 Max MM G330.350 19 My question is this: I have just bought a bafang 500w mid drive motor with an 850c controller. Dank je Giel voor het snelle antwoord. The voltage level of the battery goes down nonlinearly, the software of Bafang converts this to a battery percentage level. I probably ride around 1000 kilometers on a cassette, the chain lasts a bit longer. 9 Plug in the programing cable (using the EB-BUS; one end of the EB-BUS is linked to the EB-BUS cable at the controller, and the display cable at the other end of the EB-BUS is linked to the programing cable); This firmware is compatible with all displays that works with the original Bafang firmware. The 500c display only has up to 5 PAS levels. I would just keep the current limit of PAS 0 on 0 however. Bafang does not publish any version info, and there is no way to flash/update the firmware in any event. Please help! The combination or clarity and comprehensiveness is why I love reading articles here . Any advice you have on why this is happening would be greatly appreciated. It doesnt affect the controller itself, it cant run at 48V, it doesnt work like that. I have a recumbent tricycle. So I would just say to pedal in the gear in which you can put in your own leg power the most comfortably. Have you tuned an Ultra yourself before? UPDATE: The BBSHD is programmed in the exact same way with the same software as the BBS02. Do you have any thoughts to my new concern here? This is what you would expect. Would this put strain on the motors electrical system by under powering it? 1. on Windows 10 the system recognizes the usb driver (as USD-ser CH340 I believe); on an old Windows 7 machine I have, I installed the driver and its the same name as the one Win10 recognizes. If you find that the controller is faulty. All this time I thought I had the BBS02 but I do NOT in fact I am not even close.. This controller does not accept throttle. This setting will decide how much current the motor will draw on startup. Please could you try and help me? So unfortunately, you are stuck with your out of the factory settings. How can I degrees speed when I use the throttle? How can I make it appear? Unfortunately, you cant change this setting. Good you tried all of that. You can also learn about all the settings and reprogram the system to your likings. Bafang BBSHD Review The one to rule them all? May 08 2019 6:08pm, Nice. Maybe somebody know the answer to my problem. Do you think this is sufficient for my needs as listed above? Greetings I have installed your configuration and Im enjoying the ride. Any way to increase the throttle to max on all PAS but keep it variable? So if you really want a smaller size, I would recommend 12-14Ah. Just a question for information. Did you use special software? I also found a company who delivers a reflashing service, they are however based in the uk: https://www.electroncycles.co.uk/product/bafang-bbshd-controller-re-flash-for-52v-up-to-60v-service/. The Speeed program is not only simple to use but has a detailed help section which thoroughly explains what each setting does. The drivers are not properly installed. For example if I limited the first level to only 1 amp, could I do any damage? Error code 30 could also be caused by a faulty controller or display. I like pedal a lot and use assist by motor using only by throttle? Thanks for your detailed explanation on your problems. Which is a safe thing to do. I am a strong cyclist and I find the assist levels to be too strong for the most part. TommyL, Hi Giel, Just to update you on The BBSHD is capable of supporting up to 9 assist levels. My favorite assist level is around level 7, which gives plenty of power. Max current: 28A, If 28A is written on the controller, this will be the maximum. This way the motor and myself will work together. The reason why your new controller feels slow, is probably because the current limit is set lower. Thanks. So when searching for a battery you should look at the Wh specification. I have had bad controllers, but I have never had one fail during or before a reprogramming procedure. Ich kann Ihnen leider nicht mit Ihrem M500 Motor helfen. Its always hard for me to pinpoint the cause of the issue you are having. It makes shifting gears really fool-proof. Is this a new setting in the motors. You should check if the programming device is recognised by windows and if you have installed the correct driver. I would warn anyone when pulling them connectors apart to be extra careful and avoid pulling on cable as I probably broke them wires when separating to hook up the usb cable. As far as I know, there isnt a proper way to get only throttle working in assist level 0. Does anyone know how to upgrade the firmware on the BBSHD controller and where to get the latest firmware? Now show the display full range 100%. At least not any way I can think of. Windows 10 USB Driver: If the voltage drops beneath a certain threshold, the assistance will stop. So even if the sequence was wrong nothing bad should happen. 17- power on battery So if you want to know your actual battery percentage, you should stand still and wait a bit for the voltage sack to disappear. Assist 4 80 / 100 Als ik het eggrider v2 display aanschaf, kan ik dan wel die 2 modes configureren? So try default settings (back-up that you likely made), upload and test again. The battery is completely empty at around 41V. I think its best that the power goes to 0 when you stop pedaling instantly. If the programming cable doesnt fit your connector I would not attempt to change the pin-out. Can you still read the old controller? My battery range is 100Km, normaly i use 1/5 2/5 PASS . Thank you. You indeed will need the datasheet of your specific cell type. There are however a small batch of controllers that are flashed with firmware that wont except 52V batteries. So I dont really see anything that you could do to fix it. Thats why the setting should/can be set to 30 if you have the BBSHD. In your reply to me you stated that their is another controller for the M400 that will accept throttle. Can you direct me to this controller, I do have a tech that says he can program the controller for me. What you say about the definition of speed %limit is true. Hitting the magnifying glass will automatically select the correct port. Not sure yet which specific type, but I will look that up tonight. If you want to pedal along at all times, this will limit the maximum speed of your bike to your own maximum cadence. http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_d6qjlWU. You have mentioned that you had this happen to you and did it blow the controller? But this way you can have PAS 1 as the no power setting on startup as a safety feature. Like are all wires connected properly. There is a 36v sticker on the motor. If you then accidentally hit the throttle when you have powered on the bike, and are not on the bike, then it can shoot forward. This would increase both your top speed while pedalling or when using the throttle. Then it will drop to for example 80 percent of the current that is assigned in the selected assist level. Thanks. That assistance will draw a certain amount of current, which will determine your range. I will go and check further the wiring looms And pin connections but I dont expect to find anything. Order Numbers should be 6 or less numbers (Examples: 1234 or 123456) Message *. However, I think I know what youre maybe going to suggest is it to change the chainring? display controller: 860C, The 860C has a setting for me to change the voltage to 52V (nice). Thanks Giel . All these things you can change, just read the article and try to understand what all settings mean. Controller CR X10B.250.SN.U 3.0 Try the obvious like testing on another pc. I have no experience with the M400, so I unfortunately cannot help you with this. I hope I was clear in formulating the question, I am writing to you from Italy Kind regards. Thanks I dont know if your decrease in power is caused by the fact that your battery is less full. So that would be really simple! This will be a lot cheaper. stc-isp-15xx-v6.86E.zip If this is not stated, you can easily calculate it yourself as demonstrated. This setting will decide how fast the current will increase when accelerating. Thanks. Hi Giel, If not, what are my options for using a throttle on this model, 3. Im using the Luna Cycle Bafang software (the link to the bafang software on this site doesnt work for me) Maybee the Luna program is limited at 28 amps?? Thats definitely something that would be very convenient. Thank you for your help! This cant be caused by my preferred settings if set correctly. Check if you have the same issues there. I have some problems with my Bafang 1000kw motor. This will also imply that you will reach really high speeds in low assist modes. I have programmed to your suggested settings. Ready to program!!!! . Strange. If the display doesnt work, you can try to engage the bike in this way: https://youtu.be/rdsmplS1N10. 1000W Battery 52V. Please I would contact your seller about this, if this is the case. Thanks for the reply. But again, I find that limiting the maximum speed by limiting the current makes more sense. I prefer setting my display to 5 levels. When you are standing still, the voltage will not drop, because the battery then isnt loaded. I have a Victesse bike with a bafang M400 and a 36V/10.4Ah and 374 Wats. In the config tool instructions 4th step, it says Plug in the battery of your e-bike (and turn it on). I hope this answers your question :). I will try to answer them within 24 hours. Bafang BBS02 Review Is it really that good? You could also lower this value if you want less aggressive throttle. If the motor is running at 90RPM (at the chainring), it will be pointless to pedal along at 60RPM. Thank you for your instructions, they are very helpful. You should set this to 44 instead of 41 for the 48V battery. Reprogramming your Bafang mid-drive system can improve the usability and performance of your ebike. Hi Giel. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bBOGwk5FauKVbFH0n-nvE_cDWb-SCHCr?usp=sharing. This way you wont utilize all the power, therefore you can look at the download links that are now working again. All the feedback Ive been getting is that the m400 cant be reprogramed out of the factory? If the motor has a low current limit, the motor will not have enough power to accelerate the bike from a standstill, which possibly can be bad for the motor. It is safer to have it at 0% in PAS 0 on start up. Any other additional info that you can provide for me would be highly appreciated. How to Program your Bafang Controller - Step by Step Guide (2021). Does this cable and the software also work with the latest version of the Bafang mid-engine: the M420? always start in 1st then shift up just like a transmission. If the firmware is really damaged, you could be in trouble. From my findings, your definition of speed %limit is wrong. The 36V, 31Ah battery will therefore have slightly higher capacity than the 52V, 20Ah battery. My programming cable will be here Thursday so you will probably be sick of silly questions from me by Thursday evening. I did some calculation and the speed I got was in fact 30% of max motor rpm, ~40rpm for that cog. Your rear cassette, should have a 11T sprocket. it was a defective USB cable. Bafang programing cable - Available here on Amazon or here on eBay. 2) If your controller does not have a throttle connection, then you will need a controller with such a connection. when my battery level is below around 40 percent , everytime i accelerate from standing my motor will stop working and the screen will says the battery is empty. Thank you very much for the info. Will thry original software today. https://github.com/danielnilsson9/bbshd-fw/releases, Install If you have the battery on the bike, the programming cable attached and plugged into your computer, then the software should be able to pick it up. The controller you have can handle a maximum current of 25A. With that one the throttle works when the pedal assist is set to zero . This is a sneaky but important setting. This is the case because the display will think that you use a 48v battery. And can you tell me what the current battery voltage it, when it states 50%? Is it possible the Bafang controller in the motor is defective? Maybe I need to adjust something in the programing? Im still waiting on my cable arriving so Ill let you know how I go. Thanks Giel . Did the controller fail right after the usb procedure? I saw videos with the same kit, but battery with 17ah, 13ah, doing more then 100km range. So dont worry about it too much, you will be fine! Upon receiving this built bike from the company, I was stuck at 15mph. Yes Im running 48v. The debate is launched on this configuration and / or the ETH1861 with M400. But this is not always clearly stated. Model: BBS3 Ill use it when Im going somewhere in the car to check accuracy then use the best one to set my bike up. So do make sure the current limit is set to 30A. My question is: I have a motor of 48 V and my battery is 52V have any consequences if I will used it together? I used DPC18. If you have a weak drive train or IGH decrease this number even more. Have you any suggestions or any details how to configure them properly? The Bafang programming feature is ONLY for the Bafang mid-drive motors. Solved the problem replaced the controller. With this configuration, there are still some problems: sometimes suddenly, and difficulty in relaunching level 2 to 3 or even 4. I have purchased a BBSHD and would like to have max power from the throttle at all the PA levels! There unfortunately is no way to increase the time that the gear sensor deactivates power. Make sure that you set the designated assist level in the throttle handle tab to 9. In my BBS02 review, I have listed some great sellers of BBS02 kits and batteries. Otherwise it will not work. If you want higher acceleration you can set this value to 20 or 30. BAFANG E-MOBILITY SALES & SERVICE TOOL One solution for all bikes equipped with BAFANG systems The complete e-drive system including motor, display, sensor and control unit, as well as Bafang battery data, can be accessed. If you set the current limit to 10% in assist 1, but speed limit to 100%, it simply wont have the power available to actually hit max RPM. Download. Quick question. If you want different speed limits in different assist modes, you should tweak them accordingly. So this is not something I would recommend at all. If you do this however, the pedal assist will also work. Try a different pc, different cable, different order of connecting to the controller, etc. But if you are able to sensibly shift without the gear sensor, you should be fine as well. The only way to figure out what works for you is to try it. and I made use of gogle translator. The only reason I ask this is because I think that was the default and I test rode it before playing and finding that I can change the voltage to 52V. The hardware is limited to 25A though. You could set the current limit to 18A as well, depending on how much power you will need. I want the throttle to take off quickly. So in that case, the 52V, will be the only option. User manual download for iMortor 3.0 Ebike. If the controller works fine for the bike part, I wouldnt replace it though.
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