Officers arrived at the scene within six minutes. Or maybe the building a forum website would be cool! submitted 1 year ago by hellonearth from self.BlackPillFeminism. New posts will not be retrieved. Until the government takes incels or so-called men's rights activists and the deadly threat they pose seriously, a handful of websites (all of which make money from their existence because of advertisers willing to pay for the huge traffic they drive) will be tasked with self-regulating and proactively moderating. Unfortunately, everything is nested threads so most of it wasn't able to be saved. Reddit CEO Steve Huffman announced in a post on Monday that the message-board site had banned more than 2,000 subreddits that regularly broke its rules about harassment, hate speech, and targeting. Many get their fill from the food scene alone, which ranges from exquisite Greek souvlaki to the best hot pot outside of Sichuan. The Sitewide Rules and Sitewide Guidelines are both enforced here. In spite of all of this, Jake Davison was not stopped. Ive seen variations on the following theme increasingly on the internet and once or twice in person (it would be more if the pandemic didnt limit outdoor interaction and if I were more socially inclined). until now, they've changed quite a bit. I loved the BPF subreddit because they spoke truth like no one else. Men get most pleasure from fucking stupid women, they go crazy about them. check out ourevents calendar, or even become amemberif you like what you see. This whole blackpillfeminism stuff is fascinating to me and I will never find another group like this. With spaces like ovarit, you don't need to go to niche spaces to find women-centered news and takes that aren't rainbow libfem garbage anymore. That saidit space got hijacked by trolls and males. You can find them all in the Bronxthat is, when youre not wandering hundreds of acres of parkland, touring historic homes or strolling along New York Citys answer to the Champs-lyses. Selfies; Instagram; Facebook; Twitter; Pinterest; Flickr; About Us. Since the banwave I've only been able to find archives of black pill feminism and while I don't always agree with their views, I still find them refreshing considering mainstream society is male pandering 24/7. Bear in mind it doesn't show up on the front page so you have to go into "Discover subs" to find us. I avoid communities where the main focus seems to be on bashing women so I can't tell you more than that really. Equality is a lie. Description. By continuing to use the website, you consent to our use of cookies. Gonna add a disclaimer, I'm not hating on r/blackpillfeminism, there's a huge overlap between users and I post on both subs, I just think the contrast between the two is People on Twitter were pissed, calling her a "dumb and whiny white bitch" and all sorts of misogynistic slurs. Which seems like an inherently misogynistic ideology to me. With spaces like ovarit, you don't need to go to niche spaces to find women-centered news and takes that aren't rainbow libfem garbage anymore. I was recently introduced to "blackpill" feminism because I follow a GC radfem YouTuber who brought it up in a new video. What's new. 2020-05-13 01:02:51 Most ugly people would love to be catcalled and sexualised. User account menu. Most images and videos belong in other circles, as do most articles about male violence, as do many personal posts or rants/raves: For discussion about Ovarit, check the meta circles: Advertisements for Discord chat rooms or other private groups must be pre-approved by /o/WomensLiberation moderators before you post. But thanks for all the links, appreciate it! But who these things serve most is obviously not women, and rather than empowering us, it strips away our power and hands it to men. We did this for an entire year and he just last week told me to go ahead and keep her (he said its because she doesnt like traveling, which is true, but I suspect the real reason is that his girlfriend started refusing to clean the litter box). Edit: Did see some trolls and some bad takes but it seemed like a nihilistic view of the state of the world for women which fair. This book is included in the following book series: Informa UK Limited, an Informa Plc company. In 2018 another incel named, In the weeks before the Plymouth attack, Davison referenced toxic misogynistic internet ideologies which fall under the, That rabbit hole, according to incels, is the reality that women are in charge of everything but take no responsibility for it and that men their victims are discriminated against and never allowed to speak out about it. If she wins in the heavily Democratic district, Cabn will begin her new role in January. Countless charities, experts and think tanks have tried to warn the government about this. As the grim history of attacks listed above shows, it regularly spills over into the offline world. What unites all "blackpill" ideologies is the notion that things can't be changed and you as an individual have to either cope with that (e.g. If you need a hand, check out this quick start guide.If you're excited about ThePinkPill, you can support the site by spreading the word to other women interested in unfiltered, female-based discussions. NeverendingNight #crackpot #sexist saidit.net. Yeah, that's my take on it as well. Women and men both are a disease on this Earth and the suffering won't ever stop. I actually decided to get rid of /nsfw/ altogether. I suspect the better commentators on there eventually migrated to either radfem spaces or perhaps something like FDS depending on which side they're closer to. I like it. Edited 1 year ago. Lambourde 45x70 4m, /r/Blackpillfeminism - Not trans-focused; appeared to be banned for criticising MEN. Do you know that even thou, How We Talk About Abortion Needs To Change, Things Were Bad For Women But Liz Truss Has Made Them Even Worse. by sedating your mind) or commit suicide (alternatively: suicide terrorism). Take the Black Pill, sit back and enjoy the ride to hell. Datenschutz - Privacy Policy Anonymous 05/20/20 (Wed) 07:34:46 PM No. Res. I made the serious mistake of going to a sites one called the pinkpill.com which has a sub called blackpillfeminism, saidit and itsafetish (in my man hating phase) and I am starting to think that blackpill feminists are EXTREMELY mentally ill. One of two DSA-endorsed council contenders who won their 2021 primary out of six candidates the socialist group backed, Cabn more broadly supports taking away many of the NYPDs current duties. 2020-05-16 16:22:51 Youre probably pretty intolerant NeverendingNight & _Moon_ #crackpot #racist #sexist saidit.net (NeverendingNight) Lindsay Ellis was mocked for making a comparison between Avatar: The Last Airbender and Raya and the Last Dragon. It had attracted nearly 2,000 new subscribers within a week of the ban. cart Poulie Moyenne, Welcome again. [I originally wrote part of this as a response to the comment by lucrecia but it fits better here, and I prefer not to hog the conversation by replying to the top-voted comment.] 45. This couple just pop out on my explore page on ig, and it's a proof that most incels are volcels. Climate Anxiety Should Be The Call To Collective Action, A Woman Prime Minister Wont Necessarily Be Good For Women, Abortion Is More Under Threat In Britain Than You Think, worst shooting event in Britain since 2010. He also uploaded videos of himself weightlifting and recorded himself explaining his frustration about being a virgin. r/BlackPillFeminism is banned. A Home Office spokesperson told Refinery29 that they couldn't specifically comment on whether this incident would be classed as terrorism. Under Liz Truss, Things Could Be Harder For Women In Britain, Please Stop Saying Natural When Discussing Childbirth, Sanna Marin Has Been Exposed As Human & Its Good For Us All. I used to read the Blackpill subreddit when I was feeling especially pessimistic because it had intelligent discussions and sourced interesting research. Davison subscribed to YouTube channel Incel TV and had uploaded videos of himself to YouTube in the weeks before the shooting describing how he was "consuming the black pill overdose". Its aim: the overthrow of the oldest, most rigid class/caste system in existence, the class system based on sex a system consolidated over thousands of years, lending the archetypal male and female roles an undeserved legitimacy and seeming permanence." There are some very intelligent women there, as well as some real woman-haters, and as expected, I got some feedback from the former, while the latter ignored me completely, as they Anonymous 01/18/19 (Fri) 08:25:32 AM 2103 >>2101 JUSTICE FOR GARFIELD. 2020-05-13 01:02:51 Most ugly people would love to be catcalled and sexualised. Sign Up. I could probably find like 10,000 accounts of pickmes on twitter who post their degrading porn that is opressing to women, or have OF saying how much they want to suck or deepthroat a dick, serve men and be dominated. Thanks for the info! Or maybe the building a forum website would be cool! Allegedly misleading parliament over what you were up to during the coronavirus lockdowns (Boris, The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman said civil rights leader Malcolm X, more than 50 years ago. Heres a quick tour to help you decide where to head next. New posts will not be retrieved. Blackpillfeminism went a few days before. They would just filter into the criminal-legal system, in a way that is familiar to most folks, she added. Good job natalists, [2] - Please REPORT any comments that do not follow the sub rules. Kind of interesting the direction they're going. Drawing from fiction, poetry, music and oral history, the result is a superbly crafted and revolutionary book that provided the first synthetic overview of Black feminist thought and its canon. Its strange because a lot of what women have said on this post corroborates what is said on the other post, just this post was talking about feminist while the other post was talking about MRA/incel men. briefly scoured their sub and it's worse than incel culture. Although the term "incel" did exist in the late-90s, the most common term in the incelosphere used to refer to involuntarily celibate people in the 90s was, "socially anxious men," on the alt.support.shyness Usenet Group and "AFC" meaning "average frustrated chump" on the alt.seduction.fast (ASF) Usenet newsgroup. This is a serious question. We've received your submission. nazianime Don't touch my virginity! 3. huis clos rsum scne par scne Men get most pleasure . Women have a right to bodily autonomy and to set their own boundaries and have them respected. During our conversation Hood told me about several websites (which will not be named to avoid driving traffic to them) being monitored by CCDH which have, in the last few months alone, seen vertiginous growth in their user base. "Legit Lady Gamers" My Ass. kek the real truth is that women are the sexual degenerates. I havent been thinking beyond possibly getting the monthly stipend they are talking about (or not) but for some reason, until CH said it, I hadnt considered that this could be the end. In the days sin, Former foreign secretary Liz Truss has won the Conservative partys leadership contest and beat former chancellor Rishi Sunak in the race for the top job, Yesterday during my 36-week pregnancy appointment, my doctor started to perform the standard late-pregnancy cervical exam, but she couldnt finish it bec, What exactly constitutes a scandal in politics these days? Libfeminism promotes sex work, porn, fashion, and makeup. Even r/MGTOW has only been quarantined. This should be a long term goal (10+ years). Hope there are no moid trolls around here. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Check comments on this site if you are bored Why I Hate Men Part 1: I Admit It, submitted 2 years ago by palmafromself.BlackPillFeminism, submitted 2 years ago by OftenWrongfromself.BlackPillFeminism, Why women don't realize that men hate them and this hatred is natural for men? Its like they want zero women on the site. What, one wonders, will it take for them to be classed as extremists? Although the term "incel" did exist in the late-90s, the most common term in the incelosphere used to refer to involuntarily celibate people in the 90s was, "socially anxious men," on the alt.support.shyness Usenet Group and "AFC" meaning "average frustrated chump" on the alt.seduction.fast (ASF) Usenet newsgroup. Police have, Davison was a licensed firearms holder who used a. You must be 18 or older to continue. It's taking individualism to a very unhealthy extreme. In class politics on the other hand, the way to overcome the present things is to collectively organize as a class, so for radical feminism that would be the female sex class. He also wrote that "women's main privileges [sic] is that they can never fail". In the years that followed, there was a string of similar attacks as Rodger became something of a figurehead for the incel movement. You dislike BPF for whatever reason. The goal here is to engage in a process that changes behavior. I like it. A few months ago, I put some feelers out on saidit.net amongst the small blackpilled crowd there to inspire some feedback on the topic (you can check out my saidit post and the various comments here). In 2019 I wrote an article which angered the manosphere and a violent video about me which incited people to abuse me online was uploaded to the internet. Ministre Des Armes Concours, I think misanthropy would be more accurate, because they spare no shred of negativity towards men as well. Hipsters and history buffs agree: Brooklyn is everyones style. There haven't been any videos I could find on YouTube or anything really to go off from Google explaining more about it what is it that differentiates blackpill feminism from radical feminism? Either way, Id steer clear of anyone who strongly identifies with blackpill ideology. Last edited: Jun 30, 2020. Saidit is down. submitted 2 years ago by L00klfromself.BlackPillFeminism, submitted 2 years ago by OftenWrongfromi.imgur.com, submitted 2 years ago * by tallowcandlefromself.BlackPillFeminism, If even radfems say that they want to be degraded and humiliated they will never be free if most women for some reason are retarded masochists, submitted 2 years ago by hellonearthfromself.BlackPillFeminism. Then, when he is ready, he participates in restorative justice circles with the person who harmed him and their respective support systems. Here Collinsprovides an interpretive framework for the work of such prominent Black feminist thinkers as Angela Davis, bell hooks, Alice Walker, and Audre Lorde. Not quarantined. Example of Use: A person is beat up, suffers a broken rib, and is robbed of his wallet. Just after 6pm, officers from Devon and Cornwall Police were called to a "serious firearms incident" in Biddick Drive, in the Keyham area of Plymouth near the river Tamar. Yeah I honestly had no idea and couldn't really tell, so I wondered what everyone here knew lol. anthony le reste du monde; chape d'attelage pour micro tracteur iseki; rver d'enlever des crotte de nez islam; sonnets pour hlne yeux qui versez en l'me Of course, youll cross paths with all kinds on the majestic span of the Brooklyn Bridge. The BPF community's on ThePinkPill.co now and you're welcome to check us out :). Trending. It's just something I've noticed about blackpill feminism so far, and was wondering what the main gig was all about - is it harshly criticizing other women, near to the point of actual hatred, or am I misreading the intent? This is a really good summary. Blackpill feminists believe biology is the main contributor to our shitty, sexist system. Any space is going to have trolls and bad takes, especially one that pissed off men as much as bpf did. blackpillfeminism saidit 12th June 2022 . submitted 1 year ago by Lolstruefromself.BlackPillFeminism, submitted 1 year ago by HazyMindfromself.BlackPillFeminism, They want to be aggressively "corrected" by the powerful top male, submitted 1 year ago by OftenWrongfromfiles.catbox.moe. The team at CCDH spent last week digging into Jake Davison's presence on Reddit and other platforms, and the incel movement he was embedded in. If its just going to be raping and pillaging from now on, I guess Ill get to be a Mommy afterall. City entities including the Mayors Office of Criminal Justice and the Human Resources Administration would play a role in the process, according to the proposal. My mind has learned to automatically dissociate from some aspects of reality to the point where I can write posts like this and not kill myself which is really the only solution to rid me of the relentless suffering that is my life. It seems to of morphed into something thats toxic and counterproductive for anyone whos actually trying to achieve anything. You're now subscribed to nycgo.com's newsletters. Edited 1 year ago. blackpillfeminism saidit. Men love fucking retarded women 2. Even a service like saidit (mentioned above) isn't entirely reliable for the future. Saidit is down. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Misogyny, male violence and female pick-me behavior are biology. to protect others. Once someone manages to get mod rights, this community should be hidden from the front page and marked as NSFW , both should be possible. New. I had only heard it used by men and today another user posted [Cartoons about incel ideology](https://ovarit.com/o/NameTheProblem/40266/cartoons-about-incel-ideology) and it mentions blackpilled as the most extreme form of inceldom. I had only heard it used by men and today another user posted Cartoons about incel ideology and it mentions blackpilled as the most extreme form of inceldom. Toggle Navigation. Something like that. Our definition of terrorism includes an act or the threat of serious violence to advance an ideological, religious, racial, or political cause. Not long afterward, Reddit bans all blackpill subreddits, including r/shortcells, blackpillfeminism, and many more, leaving incelswithouthate as the only sanctioned incel board left on Reddit. 4. In this sense one can be agnostic whether male violence is biologically determined, because what matters to collective organizing is only that a problem affecting the whole class exists. Incel ideology is not niche and it is not confined to online forums. I thought blackpilled was an incel thing? If you really want to know I'd suggest actually reading up and interacting with these communities first. So now I have 2 cats and 1 dog 24/7. But here it is from the horse's mouth so to speak : https://www.saidit.net/s/BlackPillFeminism/. Never give anyone sensitive information that could be used to de-anonymize you without first vetting them yourself. It's just a cesspool, my point was only for you to be fully aware, you even mentioned you were uninformed in your post. We oppose the movement to redefine "women" in a way that erases the realities of our lives and makes organizing for our liberation as a sex-class impossible. But as an open source platform it is. blackpillfeminism saidit; i. mstaren mikael arndt; alla bostder till salu i sdertlje; blue mage spell guide ffxi; betala med vrdekod sknetrafiken; registerutdrag socialtjnsten; grace me guide meaning; hyra partytlt varberg; hifu behandling dubbelhaka; 2. welche schweizer franken werden ungltig? This place is all mine now so: 1. Ive seen variations on the following theme increasingly on the internet and once or twice in person (it would be more if the pandemic didnt limit outdoor interaction and if I were more socially inclined). This honour is usually bestowed upon subs such as r/KKK and r/FourthReich . Please do not directly link to misogynistic content to start discussions about it. In Black Feminist Thought, originally published in 1990, Patricia Hill Collins set out to explore the words and ideas of Black feminist intellectuals and writers, both within the academy and without. Either way, Id steer clear of anyone who strongly identifies with blackpill ideology. There were many angry women, too, but I enjoy angry women and I dont remember them being particularly misogynistic. /r/NeovaginaDisasters - Banned 7 months before mass Speak freely with other women about what's really on your mind. 2023 LTEN - Life Sciences Trainers & Educators Network. Misogyny, male violence and female pick-me behavior are biology. It is this definition that is applied when determining whether specific individuals are engaging in terrorism and if incidents should be classified as a terrorist attack.". I will never be able to heal from being in this world. Awesome! For discussion especially about topics of gender and transgender ideology/politics, use /o/GenderCritical. Also in April 2020, Incels.wiki splits into 4 different wikis, some larger, some smaller, over an admin tussle and disputes about a blackpiller editor. If you want a genuine idea about what blackpill feminism is, I'd suggest looking through the reddit sub archive: https://www.itsafetish.org/archives/blackpillfeminism/ Good job natalists, We did this for an entire year and he just last week told me to go ahead and keep her (he said its because she doesnt like traveling, which is true, but I suspect the real reason is that his girlfriend started refusing to clean the litter box). I dont like dogs because they act like men, Women Who Think Little Boys Are Innocent Just Because Theyre Little Boys (TRIGGER WARNING), Beauty and the Beast Song Explains Why Fighting For All Women Is Stupid, Men Are A Ticking Time Bomb (They Fantasize About SHTF Scenarios Because Thats When They Can Hurt Women And Girls Without Consequences), Women Who Let Men Touch Them Have Cooties, Pick-Me Sister Dates A Frog Who Will Never Turn Into A Prince, There is no mod here so I'm gonna say that i agree with this user who posted on bpf that women look retarded and piglike while getting fucked by men and moaning from the pleasure(that is just an illusion) and it only feels good cause you are vulnerable and it's overstimulating but leaves you empty, submitted 1 year ago by radicalhellfromself.BlackPillFeminism, Extroverts discriminate introverts more than men discriminate women, Actually I think extroverts (men and women) are more problematic than only men, Men mostly fight with other men and women mostly fight with other women, Mothers discriminate no-mothers so women discriminate other women, Pretty people discriminate ugly people and skinny people discriminate obese people, Footbal team fans discriminate another footbal team fans so men discriminate another men, submitted 1 year ago * by radicalhellfromself.BlackPillFeminism, People with the same or similar personalities will always dicriminate people who are completely different from them, People with typical personalities discriminate people with unusual personalities, Women language aka how talk to introverted feelers about 50% of all women 15% of all men, bpf is closed and hateful this is now new sub for bpf users, submitted 1 year ago by lazaniaqfromself.BlackPillFeminism, gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggttttttttttttttttt, submitted 1 year ago by palmafromself.BlackPillFeminism, Do you suffer on a daily basis or just don't care about women and world. Incel ideology is a worldview thatjustifies viewing women as objects and justifies extreme violence against them. I suppose - "I'm not like other girls" is a form of internalized misogyny, where you think of yourself as not being stereotypical but assume other women are different (I was one of those teens/young women myself). lol. Feminism is the movement to liberate women from patriarchy. The radical "public safety" plan put forward by socialist candidate Tiffany Cabn a shoo-in to earn a spot on the City Council representing western Queens after November's election . Even radfems can't escape this retardation, What happens to blackpilled straight women who also don't like their gender role,femininity etc?How to deal with life when most women are dick sucking and taking dick in their asses(sry for my language i'm just saying how it is)pickmes?I've been blackpilled since i was like 15 and i feel so isolated, submitted 2 years ago * by infinitedarknessfromself.BlackPillFeminism. wow i'm really liking what i was able to see. Privacy Policy. Knowledge, Consciousness, and the Politics of Empowerment, Informa UK Limited, an Informa Plc company. Every one of your thoughts touched me to the core as a woman who never belonged anywhere. "I cant say why the police in this case have not judged this to be a mass shooting or a terrorist incident but there is a very strong case to be made that it should be considered alongside other forms of terrorism or extremism," he added. We are not talking about hundreds or even thousands of visitors but tens of thousands and, in one case, over two million visits. "To consider it as such would highlight the seriousness of misogynistic violence, which is far more widespread than many people appreciate, he continued, "and it highlights the fact that domestic violence is also a very strong indicator of all kinds of violent extremism, whether thats incel violence, Islamic extremism or far-right extremism. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: subreddit:sub find submissions in "sub" author:username find submissions by "username" site:example.com Its That Time Again: Black Dicks Matter Month . Which seems like an inherently misogynistic ideology to me. edit: also, to put this higher up for those who might be interested in blackpill feminism, the community doesn't show up on the front page of ThePinkPill.co, but you can find it by clicking under "Discover subs.". It sorta seems related. I believe they were the first subreddit to go in the purge. Imagine being loved and worshiped the way pickmes(most women) love and serve men Yoo women on ovarit have husbands so knowing nature of male female relationships i can say that ovarit is full of cocksuckers and male worshippers. Reddit's biggest community for supporters of President Donald Trump is no more. User account menu. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Anonymous 05/20/20 (Wed) 07:34:46 PM No. And what did Anonymous 01/18/19 (Fri) 02:32:16 AM 2102 >>2101 NSFW GARFIELD THREAD. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: subreddit:sub find submissions in "sub" author:username find submissions by "username" site:example.com NeverendingNight #crackpot #sexist saidit.net. 4, which would declare the ERA ratified and valid, failed to clear the 60-vote threshold needed to bring it to the floor for debate and a vote. I stand corrected. The Senate on Thursday had its first vote on the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) in 40 years. For now there is no mod and nobody can edit the settings of this sub. Reddit's biggest community for supporters of President Donald Trump is no more. USA is split between the Woke "Minority Bloc" and the reactionary MAGA/Alt-Right. It was really hard for me to adjust to saidit as a Reddit user. Access your materials anywhere, at anytime. [1] - Please flair your submission with the full subreddit name so that they can be tracked. A community for discussing the work of Nyatalie Wynn's YouTube channel, ContraPoints. Joined Apr 16, 2019 Posts 4,482 Online 254d 17h 13m. I don't think you can really know what you're criticizing from the scant material you saw. I'd like to think we have intelligent discussions and source interesting research like the OG reddit sub. For more information, please see our And what did Discover amazing communities across ThePinkPill. It seems to of morphed into something thats toxic and counterproductive for anyone whos actually trying to achieve anything. Preface to the First Edition. Anyone can take the software and run it themselves and continue improving it. NYC has five of themthe Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and Staten Islandeach with dozens of neighborhoods lending their own local flavor. Not long afterward, Reddit bans all blackpill subreddits, including r/shortcells, blackpillfeminism, and many more, leaving incelswithouthate as the only sanctioned incel board left on Reddit. After trying to find "blackpilled" feminists on Twitter, a bunch of tweets I found were basically taunting and putting down any non-blackpilled-feminists, in a very matronising, sarcastic manner (not even close to which I've seen in discussions about libfems). If you're still interested, there is now a blackpill feminist community on ThePinkPill.co. Incels have killed scores of people across the world. Queens is one of the most diverse places in the world. Accident Ile D'oleron Hier, For some, the experience of this mental health condition can be fleeting, Its British Summer Time and due to climate change a record temperature of 40.2 degrees Celsius has just been recorded in the seventh circle of hell (sor, How much do you know about abortion law in Britain? I am squeeeee because kittyyyyyyyy!!!! Sub created in response to the misogynist sub /r/freedomispatriarchy, which was left up until today's mass ban. kse dip erwrmen ohne mikrowelle seitenscheibe hinten wechseln something was wrong podcast sara picture. It always happens, fuck biology, submitted 2 years ago by bluemvfromself.BlackPillFeminism, I hqtw it when radfems talk about their husband. Its not a plan for anything but total chaos and yet another denial of the absolutely essential role the police, courts and incarceration play in any society, he added.
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