But I totally agree with Dave that the disappearing-while-on-the-phone stuff is weird. I especially recommend the most recent documentary, Missing 411: The Hunted, as I have never seen such great visualization of movement through an area, plus the cases selected for this documentary are some of the most bizarre and inexplicable there are. Thankfully, though it would explain why you would remove someones clothing, we can rule out the sexual motive, as theres no evidence that this type of attack is what the Missing 411 cases are about. Its basically just as magic as teleportation. Open for submissions from anyone with something to say about where were headed or the nature of time or history. Which leaves being jumped by someone or something as the most likely explanation. This can be a standalone subset of cases. I have discussed the German aspect a lot with some people who understand the relevant genetics, and it appears that of all the possible ethnic groups, it wouldnt make much sense to pick Germans. Its not at all hard to imagine that in this case, the person got suddenly kidnapped into a flying vehicle and stripped by some sort of non-human entities, was aware of it (which perhaps wasnt supposed to happen) and panicked, burned himself while trying to escape the vehicle or fight the captors, got a heart attack, and died. Not only that, the details of her death, especially how she was found dead in a water tank on the roof of a hotel, mirrored the plot of a Japanese horror movie called Dark Water from 2002, remade in 2005 (Elisa died in 2013). Speaking of bizarre and inexplicable, these books and documentaries describe a growing number of cases (now in the low thousands) of people going missing or being found under strange circumstances. But I think theres more to it than that. Obviously, bad weather happening while a person is lost should also mean higher chance of them dying of exposure, but also limit the distance that the lost person can travel. Profiling is in some ways similar to cherry-picking, but the science of it is more complicated. This means that this profile point is only interesting in combination with other data points that involve positive evidence. That would explain why its so hard to identify or catch them. An animal could have sneakily killed and buried the missing person. Think of reading a missing persons newspaper section with key adjectives sprinkled in. Theres bound to be some sort of infrastructure for this, especially since it is a global phenomenon and since having the staff of the establishment where you want to disappear someone on your side or having infiltrated the school which your potential targets attend would make everything much easier. To me, if you get past the "oh-my-gosh-it's-horrible-what's-happening" surface feelings, folks might . This doc centers on hunters. Lets approach this like a normal social scientist would approach reviewing a students thesis. Similarly, some traits like high intelligence, excellent physical condition, or relevant expertise and preparation are inherently suspicious, even if they happen in statistically insignificant numbers. The cases of inside-out clothing in particular remind me of one potential UFO abduction case of Zigmund Adamski, which happened on the 6th of June 1980 in the U.K. There is at least one case in which the dog was proven to have been almost certainly fed (venison), which might indicate some perpetrator may have been more respectful of the life of the dog than that of the human target, as well as there are cases of dogs likely not having spent time in the area where they got lost, like the one dehydrated dog found in a swampland, or a number of cases of dogs being found in a surprisingly good condition. And dont even get me started on synchronicity and how you absolutely would want to use systemic coincidences in order to manage a simulated (or similarly controlled) world. There is some possibility, given the erratic and illogical behavior of some of the people who testified to what happened to them, that either a mental breakdown, or some sort of suggestion, hypnosis, or mind control technology are to blame. For that reason, what you need to focus on are any exceptional, unique, or odd attributes that ideally didnt have to show up at all, or that would make someone a logical target for a predator, even if you dont fully understand what that predator is getting out of it. If youre convinced that it cant be any of the exotic explanations, then what is any possible explanation? Some of these factors are inherently unusual, requiring at the very least a sudden psychotic break or a chain of bad decisions, while others are unusual through the rate at which they correlate with these cases, and yet others seem utterly impossible all by themselves. Maybe, just maybe, dogs are behind it all. Some have their remains found miles away from where they disappeared from, others are gone without a trace. The longer this series of deaths goes on globally, the less likely it is that its all just a result of someones bad or good luck. PG-13. An isolated concurrence so unlikely that its suspicious by itself. [1] [2] Early life and career The question is why would there be high-tech kidnappers, possibly using also advanced camouflage or noise cancellation technology, snatching random people sneakily in the forests. Which is scientifically speaking the most basic method through which to do stasis, especially if you dont care about the subject dying. So, if theres any genetic program that deals with people who have German origins, it would have to be relatively recent and more likely to be motivated by something like Nazi mysticism, rather than any real scientific reasons. Regarding this profile point, I tend to agree with a number of people who say that Dave overestimates the weirdness of people leaving essential items behind, as you can easily do that when you dont think youll be gone long or when you just have a standard brain fart. The reason why foul play was suspected in this case was that there were burn marks found on the body, which has happened in at least one Missing 411 urban case that Im aware of. In case you were wondering what Ive been doing for the last couple of months instead of writing articles here, I guess you could call it research. We cant, not really, which is why this trick would be used by higher intelligences. Thats probably why it correlates so much with cases that remain unexplained. Given that this is perhaps the most consistent profile point, it could be a key one, but there are some nuanced considerations that should be made. It's completely bizarre. Taken together, it is safe to assume that the men in question have something going on with their appearance, like advanced camouflage or perception-altering ability. Which is an issue that we have already encountered with self-driving cars. Getting lost in a forest certainly can be a traumatic event, but exhaustion, dehydration, or hypothermia could account for hallucinations, skewed perception, or irrational behavior, but again, not so much for amnesia. How do you keep getting bodies into water without it being seen, ever? On the other hand, cities dont appear to be safe either, so Look, squirrel! gryff42. Or to put it another way, a pattern of correlations is when the same things keep happening more frequently than they should by chance, while a pattern of coincidences is when unique, extremely unlikely events keep happening in connection to a person, event, phenomenon, etc. Moreover, again ironically, there are many other both genetically and culturally much older groups. Then it begins to be odd. This is the 2nd doc in the missing 411 series surrounding people disappearing in the wilderness for no reason. When we go do that with my family, we go to a place we know, or with a guide who knows the local forest like their backyard. Missing 411- The Devil's in the Detail, 2014 Maybe a comparison of natural features of these places can yield interesting correlations. So far, as far as I know, Dave made the clusters map and the table of how far away small children were found. For the first three-fourths or so of the documentary, we're under the impression that they seem to be easy targets for killers or maybe incredibly accident prone. Or I guess you could have built up your whole infrastructure before mankind developed science, or you could be hiding in natural habitats like national forests or parks, so no construction would be needed at all. Not many things need to be the same for all or most unexplained cases, and they will be objective facts. Connection: Directed by David Paulides. Beyond a mere lack of explanation, Paulides has put together a profile which includes a specific list of factors, most of which tend to be present in all of these cases. Its also unusual that it seems that its young children who much more often tend to remember and report anything, as opposed to adults. The further questions are those of exact methodology. What I will try to do is use my social science education and research methodology expertise to try to bring some clarity into how all of the variables in these cases seem to be connected. Disappearing while forgetting your phone behind is definitely much less bizarre than disappearing while having your phone with you, and especially while using it to call for help, or while something is happening to you as you are on the phone. Even if the perpetrators arent exactly advanced, protected primeval forests are the most logical place where to look for any surviving intelligent forest-dwelling creatures. The comparison actually needs to be made between the Missing 411 sample and whats normal for national park visitors in general, as well as it needs to be made between the Missing 411 sample and a control sample of non-Missing 411 missing people, ideally controlled by location (park vs. rural vs. urban). Thats how learning works. The people who were disappeared while on the phone would only be different in the sense that they must have been targeted after they were already outside. If there is someone out there with some kind of tech doing this, the tech clearly should involve remote brain or full-body scan capability (to ascertain hidden health issues or intelligence), perception altering, and memory editing. How do you infuse high amounts of drugs into a body quickly and stealthily (or extract all of the blood, for that matter)? The most common type of account from children is that of being taken or kept safe by some type of animal or animal-like men. As I was listening to various cryptid-related podcasts and shows, I have also encountered mentions of a possible conflict raging between bigfoot and dogmen/skinwalkers. In the documentary Missing 411 The Hunted, about Hunters who vanish he mentions how the FBI may show up to document the cases but as they don't investigate missing persons cases they are doing something in which they won't reveal. Though there are Missing 411 cases where that didnt help, like when a person was seen chasing a dog into the forest, which only helps explain how people can get lost more often while walking a dog. The available data that connects the water-related cases together (mainly the ones of students being found dead in water in some college cities) makes them somehow more inexplicable than the cases of people who got lost in a forest and were never found (cases in which all data is missing). Like the Missing 411 cases. Support me on Patreon: http://patreon.com/nartimar. In the last act, a twist no one saw . But if theyre after exceptional (and therefore potentially valuable) targets, they cant hide that, or even necessarily be able to do without specific targets, however unlikely those target people are to get lost or succumb to the elements. Or it could be a sign of a design artifact, like when many bad guys in our fictional worlds contain Mal in their name, or how many hero names can be abbreviated as JC. And oh my, is there a lot of anomalous data in the world that serious scientists tend to ignore or refuse to engage with. As for how useful chasing coincidences is as an intentional profile point, Dave allegedly was told that he should expect unbelievable coincidences on his quest to figure out this mystery. Missing 411: The Hunted. This should definitely include basic data like demographics of the missing and the dates and times of disappearances, in addition to locations, which were already visualized as the cluster map. In the Missing 411 cases, I believe that the percentage of how many causes of death are reported as unknown is far higher than 5%, while even many of the deaths that were reported as death by exposure or drowning seem to be questionable. Coincidence is how gods can circumvent rules. If the person was targeted at home and lured out, it is virtually certain that that person was followed beforehand. Especially considering that feeding grounds are a great place where to lie in wait for prey, and perhaps the best way to narrow down where people will be found in a big forest, and roughly when. should always be prioritized over cases included on the basis of absence of evidence. Worldbuilder, magister, change catalyst. There is mounting evidence that states of mind affect probability of external events, making it fluctuate. For this reason, the inability of trackers to track the person should only be considered significant when other, positive evidence is present, like when the body shows up later in a previously searched area, or when the trackers actually do find something thats harder to find than the person, like their matchbox, but not any of the much larger objects the person was carrying. And even if the name is just related to the remoteness, more remote and hard-to-get areas would mean the most difficult search environments. Cases with positive evidence of the impossible (facts gleaned from autopsies, missing being found in unlikely places, etc.) All 185 cases fit a narrowly defined profile that was refined after researching thousands of missing person reports; these cases are the most difficult, defy common sense, challenge conventional wisdom and remain . The only thing you need to make sure of is that the sample of your observations is representative. Documentary 2019 1 hr 37 min. Yeah, thats a weird one, which probably makes it a good profile point. Missing 411: The Hunted. Not surprisingly at all, these types of things are reported by alien abductees. Furthermore, if I understand the abstract of the U.S. study correctly, 5% of autopsy reports in the U.S. list the cause of death as undetermined, even though the real number of undeterminable deaths is much lower than that. Specifically, when, where, or how they died. Even if the name was selected purely on the basis of bad feelings, it may indicate that dangerous terrain, gases, radiation, or infrasound can be found in the area. Moreover, if you could pull this off, you would want to use this technique to help someone or manipulate them without it being traceable back to you, or without it being scientifically provable that it was a communication at all. Here are the most significant repeating profile points with my critical commentary as to their potential strengths and shortcomings: According to Paulides, every person should be found, especially if they are a small child or if theyre mentally or physically disabled and therefore presumably unable to travel long distances. If the person was seen, say, falling of a cliff, then that would be an explanation, just like it should be easier to find someone when youd seen where exactly they entered the forest, at what speed, and in what state of mind. If it keeps happening again and again, what youve got is a systemic anomaly, an anomaly on which you will keep getting more data, an anomaly that you can try to predict. Here I have to give credit to Seriah Azkath and the Snake Brothers, who pointed out the likely direction of causality regarding this profile point on a recent Where Did the Road Go show. Its too bad that the history of these names isnt particularly well documented in the Americas, but using common sense, one would use such names for places where bad things happen, where people die or go missing, where they feel bad, or at least for remote, haunting areas. How do you manipulate lividity of a corpse, like achieving none? Neurology-based research and technology would also help explain why the causes of death are so difficult to identify in many of these cases. For starters, it keeps changing, on a whim, basically, so you have to constantly keep guessing how it works. This profile point doesnt sound necessarily unusual to me, since in any scenario, it has to be much more likely that a missing persons case will remain unexplained when the person disappeared while being alone and out of sight, while any intelligent perpetrator would wait for that moment. Dave also mentions legends from Hawaii and Indonesia which explain that you should not wear bright clothing if you dont want to offend some kind of spirits, or that some spirits demand that you lie naked face down in their presence, which is how Missing 411 people often are found. The. In contrast, hallucinations should be much more common. Scott Schumacher Without giving much away, the first messages that you put on the screen I believe are the thread you meant to weave into this movie..so that it could "shake the tree" so to speak. There are also plenty of weird, and weirdly specific, clothing-related instructions in the fairy lore, like that in order to ward them off, you should turn your clothing inside out. Remember, Occams razor does not exclude something I dont understand happened. Comparison is key. The hard evidence found here indicates that many of these people must have died on land days after they disappeared, but days before they entered water, or that they must have died in a tumbling stream, when they were found in a pond with no flowing water, etc. But back to how the specific Missing 411 accounts of the people who were found indicate organized predation. Dennis disappeared while Martin kids were playing with the other Martin kids. I await suggestions. Conventionally speaking, this should be a waste of time, since it basically amounts to following coin tosses. Dave have made some comments over the years that indicate that he initially didnt believe that paradoxical undressing is an actual thing that happens, but after he got predictably criticized for it, he appears to understand it better now. All of which are attributes that should be connected with strange disappearances, if you think about it. At the same time, if we ignore abject cruelty, when some major injuries were identified as the cause of death, those might have been done to cover up an invasive medical procedure. I think the issue is that Dave by default rules out cases in which they would have made an error. In other words, youd expect these two things to correlate. On the internet. The stasis option might sound the most sci-fi, but there are multiple Missing 411 cases in which the body was found in a surprisingly pristine condition for how long it was supposedly dead. Speaking of animals, theres of course the dog whistle or similar techniques that could certainly be used to make a dog run into a forest to make its master follow him, and a variety of more sophisticated technologies currently under development, mainly to be used as forms of crowd control. This is a suspiciously good record. Then again, the alternatives dont exactly seem to be comforting, as they range up to Lovecraftian. When all you understand couldnt have happened, it points to none of that. In either of these scenarios, the result will look the same. Yes, under these specific circumstances, things like temporal displacement start sounding more likely than dozens of searchers missing an obvious corpse dozens of times. All 185 cases fit a narrowly defined profile that was refined after researching thousands of missing person reports; these cases are the most difficult, defy common sense, challenge conventional wisdom and remain . For the profile point, it means that more weight should be given to cases where the disappearance after separation was abrupt, but also that the feeling unwell or the wildly running into a forest-type separations should be looked at separately. The person could have intentionally vanished. Well, apart from the stories of people who got lost suddenly in familiar territory, but only temporarily and with full memory of the event, which means that they didnt qualify as Missing 411 cases. The reason why Im mentioning it is that he had his shirt missing and various articles of his clothing were improperly fastened, almost as if he was undressed and then dressed back in a hurry. It may even be an intelligence-type operation, specifically, which means that there could be an effort to avoid statistical detection or to obscure the true motivation by introducing false leads and using all kinds of misdirection, if not outright destruction of evidence, intimidation, or assassination. Ignoring mind control for now (which is technically doable with advanced enough technology that we are already developing), someone who can remotely scan or edit brains can probably also stop someones heart with a more advanced version of taser. And thats just the first step. While the logical statistical bias of unexplained cases of missing people should be to involve more cases of no obvious cause of death than what you should expect on average for all deaths (since otherwise the cases would likely be explained), the apparent failure rate of medical examiners in the Missing 411 cases still seems wildly excessive to me. For starters, in all of the cases where dogs couldnt pick up the scent and then the search was unsuccessful, the direction of causality could be that dogs not finding the scent should decrease the chance to find the missing person. Its not crazy talk, its a genius speculation of one of the sci-fi greats. If theres an intelligent perpetrator behind any Missing 411 disappearances, they are likely to know when to lie in wait for people at the times and dates when theres the most opportunity. Hunters have disappeared from wildlands without a trace for hundreds of years. What an apt name, by the way, SADS. It also makes sense that in such a scenario, the dog should be more able to find a way back eventually, as opposed to its owner. While you could come across a person randomly in the forest, it is much harder to be able to single people out, avoid being killed by our weapons (or leaving the dead to be found by us), and cover ones tracks. The AI then has to adapt, and will probably never be able to do so perfectly and permanently. While static city cameras could be known about and avoided, there dont seem to be any related deaths of potential witnesses, who statistically speaking must keep bumping randomly into these people entering the water. A high-level analysis of patterns behind these strange disappearances. Yosemite happens to have the highest total of Missing 411 cases of any National Park. Meanwhile, after Dennis went missing, the Key family, looking for bears some distance away, saw a dark man-type figure carrying something on its shoulder, a key piece of the puzzle. Starring David Paulides, Cuz Strickland, Bruce Maccabee. Especially since weird perception and memory issues are common among the Missing 411 cases. The exotic options would all be variations on the person entering some sort of portal or spacetime warp or legitimately teleporting. As the investigations expanded to include National Forests, David Paulides and his team began to find cases of missing hunters that fit their profile points. Taken all together, as I will try to explain shortly, no single normal or paranormal hypothesis explains all of the cases, meaning that either multiple are at play, or a one so crazy that no one, including Dave, has even been able to conceive of it yet. Clothing really is tricky. Naturally, without any explanation as to how he got there. But even then, dogs can simply fail in some cases, meaning that this profile point alone is never truly a conclusive proof of something unusual going on with the case. Not wholly impossible, but an extreme leap nonetheless. There is a chance that the person will not want to admit a bout of irrational behavior, but they should not have amnesia, unless a blow to the head, extreme psychological trauma, or very specific chemicals were involved. NR. Similarly, I would also like to see a chart of Missing 411 cases by date of disappearance, or ideally both date and time, so that theres more to compare again with normal disappearances, and in the case of dates, also with tourist and hunting seasons, like any numbers of how many tourists or hunters can be found in the forest at what time of year. If there is evidence that something weird was going on with the dog, thats the part that should be focused on, in my opinion presence of inexplicable evidence is always more interesting than a correlation alone. The question is, why would a sophisticated perpetrator remove (and sometimes return) clothing, and not understand how it works? Thats why it is so important to not ignore this data, but instead compile it and look for discrepancies between the normal distribution and Missing 411 distribution of times and dates of disappearances on a large enough sample that will therefore give it sufficient statistical significance and reliability. Maybe there are more younger and older people visiting the parks in general, maybe its more of a white or specifically German cultural thing in general, maybe people with disabilities, geniuses, or athletes should be over-represented. All 185 cases fit a narrowly defined profile that was refined after researching thousands of missing person reports; these cases are the most difficult, defy common sense, challenge conventional wisdom and remain . Especially if its only about taking advantage of naturally forming bad weather, as that would then maintain its normal, statistically insignificant rate of incidence. I have never heard of a single case in the history of my country of anyone going missing mysteriously while picking mushrooms. Paulides has written a series of books under the title, "Missing 411." the books detail hundreds of these cases and locations. Especially in the one case when the phone was later found shattered into a million pieces. Malevolent gods could theoretically use it to mislead us, but I bet that malevolent gods have a less perfect awareness and more of a self-centered, narrow viewpoint on things. 189 ratings20 reviews. All 185 cases fit a narrowly defined profile that was refined after researching thousands of missing person reports; these cases are the most difficult, defy common sense, challenge conventional wisdom and remain . The unusual death following a plot of a movie, an unusual plot, moves this coincidence to about a bit odd to the sixth power. Which sometimes happens in the Missing 411 cases, without any good reason. In the case Elisa Lams death, around the time of her death, NIH was using a test called LAM-ELISA in the area to deal with a tuberculosis outbreak. However, the understanding that there is such a connection between naming conventions and occurrence of a particular type of disappearance could be used as a lead to determine which places to investigate, either with priority, more thoroughly, or further back into the past. It would be an annoyingly good crime, however, as it is very difficult to prove such crime for the above-mentioned reasons. On the cases I investigated some teams were 15-20 people strong with only one trained team leader. And maybe nothing is. Finally, being associated with Bigfoot research also doesnt disqualify everything that you say about anything. Pretty much the only non-exotic explanations are that the person was carried, or put into a vehicle and driven or flown away, and there were cases of people too heavy to be carried by anything normal, while there tend to be no tracks or noises indicating either of these options taking place. I guess I should look into places in the Czech Republic with our version of this, involving the word ert in the name.
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