I'm an avid user of Hunter products here in Aus. Reduce timer or turn off backlight display. If the voltage did not change, verify that When 12 comes on there shouldn't be any measurable current on the same wire on the 11 valve. 4 0 obj Not sure how their fuse size compares to the actual transformer ratings. nothing works. I have a great video by an engineer named Barry Brents he explains when to use poly switching and when you might not want to. STEP 1: Verify Station Fault Remove the field wire for the faulted station. Woo-Hoo! Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Why don't you just buy your controllers from dealers instead of off the back of a truck in the middle of the night. and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. I should have mentioned my own research about polyswitches was not about their being primary protection in this application, but for use in another aspect of valve operation by remote controllers. Konapride - U da Man! Current is very helpful in troubleshooting field wiring conditions. Check battery display or When no stations are running (Inactive), this shows the standby current draw of idle decoders on the two-wire path. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have a question relating to this post and a job we are on at the moment. 1:01:06 Tools for Troubleshooting. Do not leave ClikTM Output Tester or Flow Output. How to use a clamp-meter to troubleshoot: 1. endobj Program dummy station numbers into decoder. HunterTekGeek 1. So here's the recap guys: Success! If also there are 22 stations. Sprinkus, nice job on providing the Decoder Troubleshooting Guide. The decoder will not respond after a firmware update, Dual/Pilot decoder not recognized by handheld. endobj ill ask for you next time you really know your stuff.. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. The decoder may be damaged. Troubleshooting Decoder-Based Irrigation Systems Regency Wire & Cable 3.86K subscribers Subscribe 230 Share 40K views 5 years ago Learn how to Check system for leaks and malfunctions. If successful, it will display the Dec If you are going to maintain 2-wire systems, you want to have a clamp-around "leakage meter" that can read the milliamp currents drawn by the decoders. WebAttempt to turn on the decoder from the controller (Manual Single Station or ICR remote). All rights reserved. This is a common diagnostic technique to find shorts to earth ground. I love the product. My Armada clamp meter shows 1.5ma on my ICD100 decoders. 1:27:03 Hi guys. To read decoder information: Manually activate the desired station to energize the two-wire path. When the Start button is pressed, the controller will chatter the solenoid for up to 30 minutes. stream Whats the next step? Master Valve not on (station solenoid is on, but no water). I have chatted a few times with hunter support and with the local hunter rep but I figured I would try a different perspective. If Thank you very much, I will be calling Hunter Support tomorrow. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. One of my location have a hunter acc 2 wire. O.k, you're holding the phone in one hand and the notebook in the other..how do you write? Know most of the Hunter guys in San Marcos. Hunter have been exceptional with their service over the years. JavaScript is disabled. Sounds weird, but you need a 24 VAC transformer. Been installing it for around 6 years now and its the best. Thanks for your patience. The clamp-meter will give accurate readings. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. WebEZDT - EZ-1 Decoder Diagnostics and Troubleshooting. Check battery display or retry with USB power if available. When the program doesn't run, the "module/line activity" light is rapidly blinking red. G'Day sprinklerkid_australia --- Your Armada Tech clamp meter is trying to read milliamps at 35 VAC and 1.2 Hertz. Check Programming Cup connection to decoder and ICD-HP. Decoder is powered from ICD-HP power leads. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. 1:09:06 System Troubleshooting. ICC2 Manual Operation. 6u-B*v?!kTBiqGx]%L(lJR%C%JT|JN](lW*M(q0sN)M3Z>.l&Zhg_v|w4(`yNId8Ui@IOPfMaUKZHTLjnJQZ\`{YAQ$t"k$HiYv;|bXr`-p J#[(iiq:;?-+&gj"tw0 ,x n(p.d0ib=J%UXSeRn2 LM %%]*WI@NT. endobj Copyright 2023 Hunter Industries. JavaScript is disabled. I previously distributed Hunter here in Aus and they are a brilliant company. 2. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. EZ-DT: Decoder Programming You Verify that the two wire path is connected to the controller, and that controller power is Check flow sensor setup. All rights reserved. <>>> 19 yrs & counting. Verify flow limits and delays allow for some variation. Ditto on the classy rep. Those are posts well worth saving. here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. I have a few oversize control transformers with actual fuseholders. WebPress the Station Finder soft key, and select the station number to locate. If the decoder reading fails, a red X will appear in the display. XhArBLfR6+$!$/}^T%]'N$xRP:D,d_c GuC`5PC.7|/$C. In a diagnostics situation be aware their will be measurable current where their will none in a traditionally open circuit. Or are we taking those with the same grains of salt we employ when looking at sprinkler head performance charts? ?t5Za')i6/3^mAa` B@9xkWJIj#vc$lsv$ $ac9]zruP!53yT)Ek8k~oF2|jS(KzwR%~qQPxS*=[{n{;GCNBRq;4E+ajt'b34vII +sa:fKJ http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/acc_v5.11.020_xp.zip, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/DG_DecoderDesignGuide_dom.pdf. I will also explore a shorted solenoid. Press the Station Finder soft key, and select the station number to locate. Hunter does have an "ACC Decoder System Troubleshooting Guide", although I can't find a link to it anywhere on their website. if more reps reacted to product concerns the way you do Rod i believe they would received much better on this or any forum. Of course, the primary design concern for controllers is probably going to be to have triacs that can handle the entire output of the supply transformer up to its internal fuse opening point. Manually activate the desired station to energize the two-wire path. ACC-99D uses two-wire decoders to control up to 99 stations without giving up the arsenal of features provided by the ACC. A failed decoder may read 500-600 mA over that decoders lead wires. nothing works. Otherwise I have been going by what the homeowner is telling me. <> Disconnect the 2-wire path (s) from the controller. Select Diagnostics with the arrows, and press Mode to Press the Mode Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. Each modules electrical current is shown. w?Lhq ?N~5kd>wkSrzPq$`p_PD8q Only looked it up a few days ago, and found the LTC1153 as a top result. WebMake sure both slide locks are closed. i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. Copyright 2023 Hunter Industries. Check controller power to two-wire path, or connect power leads to decoder. Make sure you have a clampmeter and notebook in your hands, I can't tell you how portant they both are. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I have replaced the decoder module and I am experiencing the same problem. HCC Manual Operation. I was at the Golf Industry Show in San Diego all day. Example of using glass fuse holders on ADM. Any luck using self-resetting polyfuses instead of conventional glass fuses? All rights reserved. The * is letting the user know that the ICD-HP is in process of communicating with the decoder. I scheduled with the homeowner for Friday morning, so I will be calling at 8am Hawaii time this friday. http://blog.circuitprotection.com/bwitch-device-and-when-to-use-a-fuse-te-talks/, http://blog.circuitprotection.com/bwitch-device-and-when-to-use-a-fuse-TE-talks/, http://www.underhillonline.net/Faulting_Transformer_p/transfrmr-240.htm, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf. Y1-XBL)~\d1on4a*NkHIcOB\pMEw4pl>=U`S&bSh 9umf,[$ctNKXle5I<5~8[y!ofCO]myN 'T,]>V 7T% In other words, if you try to use a clamp meter on "native" power, normal controller power, it likely will not read accurately. WebSolution Check controller power to two-wire path, or connect power leads to decoder. Sounds weird, but you need a 24 VAC transformer. The wire test will place a 60 Hz frequency on all output modules and their two-wire paths, to allow wire tracking and fault finding with a standard AC current clamp meter. To read decoder information: Two beeps will sound, and decoder information will be displayed. The display may show Press the Mode (center) button on the DUAL48M control panel. Read the resistance of the wire pair that connects the two decoders together. The readings should be between 0-60 depending on distance between decoders (see decoder wire resistance chart). If connection/wiring breaks are not visible, then use a cable tracer to track the wire issue. The station finder will chatter a selected station to help locate a solenoid in the field by listening. The AC current will drop sharply between two points on the wire path, if the short circuit or fault to earth is between them. here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Weba defective solenoid, 2) defective field wiring, or 3) poor wire connections. Rod says that Hunter ICD decoders should draw 3.5 to 4ma. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. I thought I was the only nerd regarding 2 wire. I am troubleshooting a Hunter ACC 2 wire decoder system and could use some advice. Can we trust electronic component curves? Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I feel like I am beating this to death. When troubleshooting is finished, press the soft key again to turn off the 60 Hz wire test mode. Woo-Hoo! Decoder will not respond after firmware update. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 3 0 obj I have only gotten the problem to show itself for me once, that was today after installing the new module. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Hunter does have an "ACC Decoder System Troubleshooting Guide", although I can't find a link to it anywhere on their website. WebHunter ACC Decoders. Make sure power is on to controller. It helps us both when you are in front of the controller when we speak. Basically the system doesn't work intermittently, where the control box indicated that it is watering normally but it in fact is not. The Diagnostics screen displays an overview of the electrical status of each installed output module, plus additional functions. ICD-HP will not communicate with decoder. @lP-s 67#R }*]xg6Q+DTp J'rY{y Position the EZ-DT and EZ-1 decoder as shown in the display. %PDF-1.5 2 0 obj I think it isn't posted online because it needs updating. There will be more online material in the future. School of hard knocks. Check Programming Cup connection to decoder and ICD-HP. I remember reading the phrase "electronic circuit breaker" in product descriptions when the glass fuses and mechanical circuit breakers were no longer included with sprinkler controllers. i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. Check flow sensor wiring. WebThe bottom of the decoder (the end with no wires) should be within the programming cup. All Hunter ICD decoders have a single copper grounding wire. That is the "wire" that would be connected to earth ground. If the decoder (s) look damaged from surge, disconnect them from the 2-wire path and check the amperage at the controller. This is done by going to "Advanced Features", "Decoder Functions", "Check ADM Current". Ex distributor and a big fan of Hunter 2 wire. This seems serious enough for the big kahuna to do a site visit. A technician can then listen for the underground noise to locate the selected solenoid. 2. 1 0 obj To view this page in a different language, please select from the list below. also there VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 1.5 Amp, fused, with alligator clips, A technician can then listen for the underground noise to locate the selected solenoid. <> However there have only been two fault messages, each for a random zone (19,22) stating "comm" error. http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/DG_DecoderDesignGuide_dom.pdf, http://www.turf-digital.com/Jul2011/South#&pageSet=12&page=0. Sometimes it works perfectly fine. 1:15:16 Types of Problems. Some of us employ self-healing transformer technology which may use a poly-switch or other resettable device. All diagnostic functions are completed via wireless communication between the EZ-DT and EZ-1 decoders. I will be in the office the rest of the week. Operating large numbers Copyright 2023 Hunter Industries. Select. WebMove the pointer with the arrow buttons at the Main Menu screen to Program Decoder and press Next . can we get the Federal Express guy to teach a half-day class? Wont read flow. EZ-DT is Hunters new Easy Decoder Diagnostic Tool that makes troubleshooting the EZ-DS system even easier.